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tune. she's singing extra happy songs these days. tina kim, cnn. the latest ef on julia's kickstarter page, with about 18 hours left, raised more than $65,000, athtd the people at kickstarter say this since launch in 2009, more than 70 million dollars has been pledged to various projects from films to inventions. this is the top of the hour, everyone. thanks for joining us. i'm don lemon. the white house is buzzing tonight. the president hovering with congressional leaders. permitting the government to borrow more money than it owes already. there you see the national debt clock in new york city. that's a live picture. well over $14 trillion and counting. and counting. just a few years ago when it reach $10ds trillion they actually had to remake the sign
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to make extra space. the sign of the times we called it when covering that story. why this is so important to america's future, cnn's white house correspondent dan lothian and political analyst david gergen. also jonathan allen, senior congressional correspondent from politico. dan lothian, we start with you. any signs of progress? the president said moments ago when asked, by someone in that room, when they allowed reporters in, can you get this done in ten days? and he said, we have to. >> right. just those three words. it shows the sense of urgency here at the white house. if i can point to sort of one visual clue here. perhaps it's just because it's the weekend, but nonetheless, everyone dropped ties during this meeting. perhaps a sign of how much work really needs to get done, compared to last week thursday when they all met wearing coats and ties. still a wide divide. while everyone had been talking about significant progress that has been made, republicans have pulled back, because they don't
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see raising taxes as part of this equation, and the president is looking to do a grand deal. he wants to seize the moment here for the long term, and doesn't believe that now's the time to back down, don. >> i want to bring in david gergen. david, we're looking around today talking about understanding the debt ceiling for the viewers and for ourselves, as a matter of fact and what's at stake here. one of best thing we came across, an op-ed on cnn.com that a debt deal could hurt democrat fls 2012. why do you say that? >> reporter: wel . >> well, the president was seeking a grand bargain. he and john boehner agreed that would be desirable, but in john boehner's mind as republican, that always depended upon democrats caving in on taxes and allowing the republicans to have a deal that depended entirely on spending cuts. that, of course, was not in the cards. but in trying to go for the grand bargain, president obama did something else that upset
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his left, and that is, he said that he was willing to entertain cuts, serious cuts in medicare and even to look at social security and the left of the democratic matter been insisting for some time now that into the 2012 election, that it is essential to their campaign. of course, they were sizzling, and nancy pelosi went to see the president friday to say, wait a minute. you can't do this. you can't undercut us, but that's not the larger point right now. i think the larger point is, can these folks come up way deal in the next ten days? that's the suspense, and can it be a meaningful deal, a credible deal to the financial markets? >> but i think it's also important, the larger point as well. i wonder if people at home, people back in those districts, jonathan, know all the political posturing and all the ins and outs going on when it comes to these talks? many of them may not like it if
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they actually knew what was going on behind the scenes? >> that's right. a lot of these new freshmen republicans in the house were elected on a promise of transparencyy. president obama ran on transparency in 22008 and you'vt a small group of people getting behind closed doors to make huge changes. we're not talking about $100 million. not talking about a billion dollars. we're talking about several trillion dollars in spending cuts. it could come from things, as david gergen suggested, like medicare and social security, were they to get that big, grand bargain. even if they don't, there may be changes to entitlement programs. on the other side, democrats wanted to see tax increases and a small set of people with very little infrut the larger set of member of congress making a deal behind closed doors and there won't be a lot of time for the public to assess that before members of congress are asked to vote on it and that might have the affect on the ability of the house speaker and harry reid to
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actually pass a debt ceiling increase once some sort of agreement is made. >> i was reading this today in the "new york times," david. i'm going to give this to you. nearly three dozen house republicans and another dozen in the senate joined most of the republican presidential candidates in signing a pledge that will not, that they will not vote to support the debt limit increase unless congress approved a balanced budget amendment to the constitution which is unlike -- okay. most people agree, every economist, every economist of weight will say, by doing this they are possibly spooking the markets, and fooling with the economy of the world. this could throw an already -- an economy that's already teetering on the edge into, really, the abyss. do you think those who are doing this understand it, and do you think that people at home understand this as well? >> i think there's a growing recognition among the political leaders in washington that
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they're playing with fire. that time is running out and they must come up way deal that does not put the u.s. economy into further jeopardy. back home i don't think people understand it very well. you know, the president and the leaders on both parties now agree has to be done, to lift the debt ceiling. 70% of americans in recent polls said they don't think we need to raise the debt ceiling. clearly, this is a process that hasn't occurred. it goes to jonathan's point. it's all being done at such a rush now at the last minute that the education process of bringing the country along, bringing constituents along for a compromise, that time has basically almost run out. so my sense is, don that they're clearly not going to get a grand bargain. the presidential going try get a grand bargain. john boehner said bring it down to maybe $2 trillion instead of $4 trillion. i think $2 trillion is going to be awfully hard too. tonight is really important to figure out whether they can come
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up with some sort of consensus that that's their goal and they think they can get there or start low aring their sights lower. >> we keep saying it is, at least the way it's portrayed in the media to you, dan lothian is that it's the president. it's the republicans. but also the president is also getting it from fellow democrats. isn't he? >> reporter: he is. and you've been talking about this, because the president and other democrats that insisted that things like social security and medicare would not be on the table, that, really, the people who needed to be bearing the big bulk of the burden here were wealthy american, wealthy corporations, and so closing some of those loopholes was the better solution, and so when the president starts talking about putting health -- putting medicare or social security as part of the discussions on the table, then it does turn off the left of the party, those progressives, not happy about that at all. and it become as much more difficult sell for them, when they ge back to their districts,
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and certainly with the 2012 elections looming, it's not something that they want to have happen. >> all right. hey, good stuff. thank you, guys. thank you, david and jonathan and thanks to dan. make sure you stick with cnn. we're going to continue to follow this developing story. looking at live pictures. look at the debt. how it keeps going up. two years ago, we said, this debt clock had to be changed another number added to show just how much debt the u.s. has incurred. there you go well over $14 trillion. now this -- syrian activists calling for an end to violent crackdowns against protesters by government security forces nap report is next. and rocked by a huge hacking scandal. the news of the world publishes its final edition today after 168 years. a report from london is straight ahead on cnn. if you want 20 reach out on social media, twitter, facebook,
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185 people aboard. ships and hechts rescued about 80 passengers. one survivor says "bulgaria" went down so fast the crew didn't have time to throw out lifeboats. many jumped into the water in panic. a deadly train cash. 100 hurt when a passenger train jumped the tracks. it's feared the toll will rise as rescue crews search through the wreckage. nearby residents rushed to the scene. they smashed train car windows to help get trapped passengers out. defense secretary leon panetta says iraqi leaders need to crack down on factions targeting american troops. 14 americans killed by hostile fire in june and three more in the first ten days of july. panetta is on his first trip to iraq as head of the pentagon. he's meetyiing with iraqi leade scheduled to leave at end of the year.
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debating whether to ask to stay beyond 2011. closing in on the libyan capital of tripoli. less than 100 miels away. ben's wedeman is with them in the foothills of western libya and filed this report. >> reporter: another mortar round rings out from the hills. aimed at the plains below, at the town of lenum. these fighters in the western mountains have fought long and lard to get where they are using the rocky, dusty high ground to harass forces loyal to moammar gadhafi. and when they fire, the other side often fires back. >> so apparently they have come under bombardment here this morning from the town which is only about three kilometers away. this is the last position of the rebel fighters before this town. >> reporter: many of the men here, their faces covered in front of the camera, they're
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from a town still under ga daughterka ga gadhafi's control. breaking through to the town, sits on one of the main highways to tripoli. we will try to reach the town he tell meese and help our brothers because they've been subjected to the worst crimes. so as you see every day we fire rockets on the enemy to drive them away. at a nearby abandoned quarry, rebels relax in the shade. lunch here is a simple affair. fresh camel meat and liver, spiced with a hefty helping of black humor. god willing, says this man, we'll string up gadhafi like this. during the long hours of boredom, mustafa tells me, they listen in on the radio to the
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libyan soldiers down below. >> we hear them speaking, he says, but they're speaking in xoed. it's not clear what they're saying. the message they're sending from the hills to gadhafi's troop, however, is clear enough. ben wedeman, cnn, in western libya. and coming up on cnn -- >> mr. stone lost his life as a result of a tragic accident at rangers' ballpark last night. >> the baseball community mourn as loss of a man who accidentally fell off of a stadium railing and died trying to catch a baseball thrown into the stands. is it time to change security rails at baseball stadiums? that conversation, next.
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i completely pictured my husband doing the same thing for my son. >> right now at stadiums around the country, fathers and sons are sitting in the stands eating hot dogs and watching the american pastime. and that is why a death at the rangers ballpark is hitting home for so many people. it both terrible, a terrible accident, and a completely relatable one at that. >> well -- this is it. that's -- why there is time -- wow. >> reached for a ball and fell head-first over the rail dropping 20 feet to his death. his 6-year-old son, named cooper, right next to him. saw the entire thing happen. the man beside him, moved fast, tried to pull him back. >> first instinct, reach out and sgrab him. i tried to grab him. i couldn't catch him and he went down and went by me.
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i tried to grab him again and i missed. and it looked like in slow motion, his head straight to the ground. nothing i could do except watch him fall. >> black tarps covering the gap he fell into and flags flying at half-staff at that ballpark. a sports anchor for dallas afit yit joins us now via skype. thank you for joining us, joe. this story is disturbing a lot of people, because it could have happened to anyone, anyone. couldn't it? >> you're right, don. it's the cruelest of reminders of just how fragile human life can be and the mind-boggling part about this thing is everyone's intent was right. josh hamilton flipped the foul ball up an inning or so and heard cooper stone ask for a ball. most times big leergs wouldn'ter that. he made a note of it. trying to do the right thing. dad trying to dot right thing, mr. stone.
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it's hard to wrap your mind around how something like this could happen, and at that funeral tomorrow in brownwood, in are going to be a lot of people asking why and how and unfortunately, don, there are not going to be a lot of answers given. >> they inspected the stadium and said they weren't making any changes. i don't want to keep drilling this video but want to point out something. if we could roll the video. i want it show you about the railing. as i was speak ak folks out last night, saying those railings come up below your waist if you're 6 feet or taller. it's at your center of gravity higher than the railings, and that's at a lot of baseball park. most stadiums. they have steep stair, concrete everywhere. and if you look at -- roll that video. i just want to look at it. you'll see that the railings were well below mr. stone's waist. hold on, joe. can we get that video back. there we go.
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the video of him falling. the video, not the still. but, anyway -- so then what do we do? what happens? are there going to be changes made, if there is a lawsuit? if the wife of mr. stone comes forward? because people are there. again, as we said, every single weekend and every single day mostly in stadiums. >> well, because of that cruel reminder, don, now the rangers bear the burden of making some kind of change. now, they're saying there might not be a change immediately, but i suspect down the line we certainly see some changes. right now, i've spoken to rangers officials and they tell me there are meeting that have already taken place with city leaders. meeting with architects of the ballpark, contractors and they're trying to find a permanent solution, not a
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stopgap one. there's been a lot of talk about netting in respect was decking up there before, that caused some concern and raised fears about safety issues before. so now it's incumbent upon the rangers to come up way long-term solution and one that will only ensure fans' safety. i heard, speaking earlier in the last hour. part of it is also fan awareness. i'm spritzed there aren't more injuries especially down the first and third base lines with the advent of smartphones and people texting and surfing the internet down the third and first base line. those are rocket shots kummel off those bats, and there is danger there for fans' heads in these stadium's ps a spate of stadium deaths in the last several years. this is a stark and cruel reminder that it's everyone's responsibility when you go a ballpark when you take your kids to the ballpark, that do you need to have that extra measure of security and warning for
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everyone you take to the park. >> listen, this isn't the case when it comes to mr. stone, you fwlee people do, joe, at a ballpark. they go. they have beer. they serve liquor at the stadiums. you're going up and down the steep stairs, railings at the bottom. some very low. so it's understandable. you know, it's such a happy tradition for dads to take their sons to ball games. you just can't help but identify with this family. i'm sure you'll agray ee with t. >> that's part of the thrill of goi going to the game. shannon stone bought the glove on the way there. it's what we all love about baseball, and getting to be a part of that tradition is getting that foul ball. and a point here, don. that area where mr. stone fell from, one of most popular areas when they're having batting practice pregame. so people are always there trying to get a foul ball and, again we go back to the unexplainable issue of why this happened, because there have been thousands and thousands of balls hit in that area, people
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with gloves trying to get balls and nothing has happened until now. and even so, now it's up to rangers to try to do something to make their ballpark safer. yes, it exceeded code, but they now have to look at that. >> and a sports anchor for a dallas affiliate. appreciate your time. negotiationses are under way at the white house to raise the debt ceiling for the federal government. an update, next. find a way to break through. to make science as exciting as a video game. i need to reach peter, who's falling behind. and push janet who's 6 chapters ahead. ♪ [ male announcer ] with interactive learning solutions from dell, mrs. davis can make education a little more personal. so every student feels like her only student. dell. the power to do more.
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fleeds to be reached with ten days. republican congressional leaders say they won't agree to raise the debt ceiling without spending cuts. they arality balking at any proposed tax cuts. august 2nd is the deadline to raise the debt ceiling. the relationship between the u.s. and pakistan. the u.s. is withholding $800 million in military aid to that country. white house chief of staff bill daly confirmed this on abc this week. the two countries are allies but major trust issue between the two, especially after u.s. special forces found osama bin laden hiding inside pakistan. after 168 years as britain's top selling paper, the last edition of news around the world came out. allegations its staffers hacked into the phones of celebrities. rupert murdoch was seen reading the last ed igts.
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told 200 people laid off they can apply for jobs elsewhere in the company. a report from london, straight ahead. britain's prince william and his wife catherine are heading home after their whirlwind tour of california and canada. the royal newkne newlyweds left an inpregs. prince william hailed the troops that he called the front lines of a remarkable relationship between the u.s. and britain. a nasa space shuttle is now docked with the international space station for the final time. the "atlantis" is delivering supplies and spare parts. it will return to earth in two weeks marking the end of nasa's shuttle program. all right. it is oppressive. it is unrelenting, and it is getting downright unsafe out there. i'm talking about the heat, of course, in many areas. they are or will be under heat
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advisories. turning to our meteorologist jacqui jeras to show us where the intense heat will be, jacqui. >> it's terrible and covers so much of country. over a dozen major metropolitan areas having heat indices that are at dangerous levels. the part of the country we're talking about stretching hundred of miles from iowa all the way down to almost the gulf coast. you start to see the bright pink area, kansas city down towards tulsa, memphis, even southern parts of illinois, those are excessive heat warnings where the heat index is feeling as much as 115 degrees at times. this is just the tip of the iceberg. this isn't just this weekend, folk. this is lasting at least into tuesday for most of you, and will last even longer than that for some folks in the central plains, like oklahoma city. your heat advisory stays into effect all the way into next saturday. unfortunately the news is not good for you folks. people are having a hard time in the heat. pictures from milwaukee, wisconsin this morning. the temperature was 85 degree.
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that was enough to send ten people to the hospital during the first rock and soul half marathon. all part of the summer festivities. you love summerfest but the heat didn't go well with the runners and hydration stations in the course ran out of water. that added to the problems as well. checking in with some of our affiliates, too, to see what's going on leer. our o'affiliate in arkansas reporting eight people died from the heat in the last week and they've got a whole page here on the heat wave, and then in oklahoma city, koco, our affiliate there, people sending in photos. look how dry conditions are here. they see the cracks, as much as 8 to 12 inches deep. people are taking pictures of car thermometers. showing 103 degrees. a bunch ever records, wichita, 111. 111! joplin, missouri, still cleaning up from tornado damage. it was 106 there today. oklahoma city, 1 a 3.
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102 in springfield and harrison, arkansas a record of 101 degrees. the heat index is more important than the actual temperature. can you go to weather.gov and find a chart like this to find out how bad it is where you are. take the air temperature, find the relative humidity and calculate your heat index. it will tell you how dangerous that level is and, unfortunately, that danger level is very high for a lot of people. thunderstorms, the only thing that's going to bring the folks relief. severe stuff move ago cross the upper midwest pushing through the dakotas and into western minnesota. a rough night up there for a while with those folks. don, you doing okay in the heat? it's rough. >> yeah. >> the air conditioner, way down t. was hot earlier in here. nothing compared to the people actually having to deal with that. thank you so much, jacqui, appreciate it. remembering weren't of the most influential first ladies in our nation's history. betty ford who died at the age of 93. that's right after a break.
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after 168 years, news of the world is no more. the british tabloid pub issued its last issue today. a victim of outrage over reports it hacked the phone of a missing teenage girl. we report the final edition was an immediate collector's item. >> reporter: readers snapped up the final edition of "news of the world." here it it is subpoenaed
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headline is, thank you and good-bye. 5 million copies were printed today, and in many newsstands across london. this sold out before noon. inside, the paper is both proud of its 168-year history and also apologetic for its "appalling wrongdoings." here's what some readers had to say about the final edition of the newspaper i. think we all kneel there's a lot of journalists there that really took front of what's going on. murdoch seems to have escaped somehow. i think there's a lot more to be discovered, and i think it's british people, we like to seem to be fair across the world. this world, everyone will see what's going on. won't they? >> i feel sorry. it's not their fault. but not the ordinary -- not them. it's not their fault. >> an institution in england. quite sad, really, but, yeah.
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for me it's not particularly a serious newspaper. it's just sport of what's going on. isn't it? >> reporter: well, this is the headquarters for "news international" the parent company for "news the world." now, the newspaper's office, shut, but rupert murdoch himself arrived here earlier this afternoon reading a copy of the "news of the world" final edition. the question is, why exactly is he here? is he here to handle the spiraling crisis and ongoing police investigation? three people have already been arrested, including andy paulson a former editor of "news of the world" and a former spin doctor for prime minister david cameron. more arrests are expected. murdoch may also be here to try and salvage his takeover for british broadcaster, what is reported to be the more valuable prize in his media empire. that takeover needs to be approved by the government, but that takeover decision has been
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delayed, specifically because of these phone hacking allegations, and it now appears that the takeover bid is in serious jeopardy, and there are now concerns that the "news of the world" scandal may start to be affecting other parts of ruport murdoch's media empire. atechniq atika schubert, cnn. a lady who went on to help others. betty ford, the name behind the well-known betty ford center died at the age of 93 from natural causes. two funerals are planned. one in california on tuesday. the other is thursday in michigan. the public is invite fod pay their respects. and the wife of former president gerald ford was honest, forthcoming about her addiction to alcohol and painkillers, and cnn's larry king interview eed betty ford several times and find out that firsthand and he spoke with me about it. >> she lived a glorious life. she had a great family.
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in fact, there's one of the best moments in all the years i did on cnn was when gerald ford described what her intervention scene was like when the whole family gathered around to -- to tell their mother and wife that she's an alcoholic, and she had to accept that, and then come forward with it. >> were you helped by your husband who brilliantly describe and this show, on that. >> yes. >> what happened? >> it was a terrible shock. i knew i didn't feel well and all of a sudden the family walked in. >> the whole family? >> surprisingly, yes. everybody had come from all around the country, and they -- >> were you in bed? >> no, no. i was up, but i wasn't dressed. it was in the morning. and they walked in, and i thought, isn't this dear? they've come because i don't feel well. how sweet of them, and then i saw these strangers with them.
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and i knew immediately something was wrong. and it was a doctor and another doctor, and a nurse who were helping them with the intervention. >> were you in shock? >> i didn't know quite what it was at that point, because i knew nothing about an intervention. >> when they spoke, were you shocked? >> oh, yes. i was totally destroyed when my family said what they felt. >> i think she'll be remembered a long time. there's is -- america has a special place for people like this, and betty ford owns a little piece of it. >> married to her husband for 58 years. gerald ford died in 2006. and coming up next, i'm going to introduce to you an 80-year-old man i found to be a very special person and a very special artist. you'll see what i mean, right after the break. start with soup then have salad and biscuits followed by 1 of 7 delicious entrees
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when you think of the art world maybe you think of the hip scenes in new york or london. the white sterile galleries, artists and latest fashions. rsh appraising pieces for their walls. thornton dial is about as far away from all that as can you get. dial has a major exhibit opening in atlanta this weekend. here's his story. >> reporter: to the casual observer it's just off to the critical eye as shown in this
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alabama television documentsry, thornton dial's work, brilliant work. >> and it asks all of us about genius. you know? and where does it reside? >> reporter: with no normal education, he can't even read, the 82-year-old began creating as a dirt-poor child in the south whose family couldn't afford toys making his own out of cans and string. he worked as a steel worker, cap penaltier then brick layer then started making steel furniture. that gave him more time to create art. then at the ripe age of 60 he was discovered by art collector bill arnett a skyrocket ride to fame and wealth and controversy. >> it would not be a controversial thing to say that there has been racism in the art world. >> they wouldn't even look at a work by thornton dial and consider it artwork in the
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museum. >> reporter: and in 1993, "60 minutes" profiled dial in a story that insinuated that bill arnett had been exploiting dial. both men took great offense t. was don that made me what i am, and i really appreciate him for what he did for me. >> reporter: dial has some trouble walking these days after a stroke, but he's on the rise again. more popular than ever. more prolific than ever. finally landing a series of shows at major galleries and museums around the country. some of his work has sold for tens of thousands of dollars. and i had the chance of a lifetime it sit down with thornton dial. my in-depth conversation with him, coming up next.
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before the break we brought you the story of thornton dial and artist who transcends racial barriers a lack of formal education and the occasional snobbery of the art world. breaking many of the rules with his one of a kind compositions. here's my conversation. >> reporter: you didn't go to school. did you? >> no. >> reporter: did you learn to read and write? >> no. >> reporter: none of that? >> no. >> reporter: but you know how to be an artist? you're self-taught. how did you start? as a kid? >> well, yeah. i was a kid playing with stuff. yeah. >> reporter: like what? tell me. >> well, i used to play with a whole lot of cans and stuff and a lot of the things i used to
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play with. >> reporter: this is your favorite? >> you're right. >> reporter: this is tuscaloosa. that just happened. >> i was looking at that storm when we was going down through there. it's there for you to see. see what the lord has did. >> reporter: did you realize when you were putting all this stuff together that it was art or were you just messing around? >> well, you just sit there by yourself. you know? if you're doing things you set it by your own self and after you set it by yourself, and it didn't hold up, well, i've got to make another one. >> reporter: what did you call it before art? i. didn't call it nothing. >> reporter: because you didn't go school? >> right, right. >> reporter: do you understand that some people say things about that. they may be jealous. >> well, i feel that way, too. i feel the same way you speaking that way. because some people get gel ois of that kind of stuff. but you can't be jealous of what god got for you. you know?
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because that's your mind. >> reporter: your talent. >> huh? >> reporter: and your talent? >> oh, yeah. yeah. that's it. that's the coal mine right there. >> reporter: jesus christ in the coal mine. >> yes, yes. >> reporter: tell me about jesus christ in the coal mine? >> well, he is a worker. you see after you go down in the mine, you're depending on the lord. and that's jesus christ. you can't depend on nobody else. who you going to depend on? >> reporter: people call you folk art. trying to put new a category. ship say thats racist. it's art i. think it's a cool thing because actually i think all art is eye. >> reporter: seems to me you don't let any of it bother you. >> nothing. nothing. it never has. >> reporter: not even the controversies? >> no. >> reporter: not even when people write or what they say about you? >> well, feel good about it.
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you know? you have to feel good about something. >> reporter: i'm wondering if you look at this stuff and you go, me? all this for me? >> yeah. i think about it. i think about it, all of that, too. because it's amazing. it's amazing to see stuff that i did, and people have came and looked at it. >> reporter: thornton dial, thank you so much. the exhibit running now through august 22nd in atlanta. casey anthony, acquitted this week of murdering her little girl will be free from jail one week from today. after a break a live report from orlando with drew, there when the verdict came down.
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let's check your headlines right now. president obama says she wants a deal to raise the federal government's debt ceiling with ten days. he and congressional leaders are meeting about that right now at the white house. the main sticking paints are raising taxes and spending doubts reduce the deficit. the government has maxed out its borrowing at $14.3 trillion. if it can't borrow more, it risks defaulting on its financial obligations. we're going to have more on this development. and the california man who admits kidnapping and sexually
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assaulting jaycee dugard for over 18 years. he was a registered sex offender when dugard was kidnapped in 1991. the report calls the supervision clearly substandard. jaycee is speaking out for the first time. in captivity she gave birth to two children and in an abc interviews talks how she first felt when she saw her first newborn daughter. >> very painful, but then i saw her. she was beautiful. i felt like i wasn't alone anymore. i had somebody that was mine. i wasn't alone.
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>> dugard has also written a book at her ordeal called "a stolen life." i want to turn now to the ongoing saga of casey anthony. one week from today she will walk out of jail a free woman. her sensational murder trial in the death of her 2-year-old daughter caylee ended in acquittal even though found guilty of lying to police. bring in a reporter from wdvo radio inno lando. joining us throughout the trial. casey anthony is now so famous. some would say infamous, her getting out of jail could become a huge spectacle. what should we expect next sunday? >> interesting to see what the jail will try to do to keep both casey anthony and the public safe. they have said that they are going toing taking, when the verdict was read, they blocked off the regular exit of the jail
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where normally inmates get out. like she was going to be let out of that exit. i don't know if things have changed now, because of the anticipation of it, and you know she was going to be released this wednesday. they moved that back. so there's definitely some plans in place to make sure everything goes smoothly, but there will be -- you know, there will be a big public interest and being there, there will probably be a lot of spectatorspectators. the sheriff's office has its work cut out for them. >> we saw outrage. a lot of it really right there at the courthouse, and you're in the area there covering it all. i'm wondering, is this starting to settle in now, that people -- are they starting to accept this verdict? >> yeah. the crowds have really left the courthouse. there for a couple of days, people really just hung around. there were protests. people with their sign. not only was a lot of the anger directed at casey anthony, but we saw a lot of anger directed at the jurors. we saw signs calling the jurors
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murderers and that was weren't of the big concerns of judge belvin perry. he has withheld release of the names of those jurors because he's so concerned of people taking actions against them. of course, with public record of law here in florida, members of the media, lawyers representing members of the media file add motion to have those names released and the judge said he have to release them, but right now he's going through a cooling off period to try to let people's emotions settle down a little bit before he releases those names into the public. >> i have to ask you this -- do you think there's anywhere that she can possibly go where she won't be hounded by reporters or just people? >> plab nmaybe not in this coun. i think anywhere she goes in this country there's going to be an intense interest nome from the public but also, if she -- goes to same places like new
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york, but the paparazzi would be so intense and they'll want to capture her pictures and know every single thing she's doing, i think she'll be followed around intensely. in both those locations. i think probably the best bet for her, and i've talked to some people in public relations and people that handle these type of things, that she should lay low and not be seen out in public. of course, anywhere she goes. i saw tmz had already gotten some pictures of her parents at a pool laying out. this there is going to be huge interest, guesting pictures. knowing every move shale make and speculation whether she'll try to make money off this. sell her interview and story. this will drum this up even more. >> can you talk more, though, about her safety? as i understand, there is a lot, there's a big effort going on to try to protect her. not only her, her family as well. is her safety really at risk here? >> it's hard to say.
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the judge said that this is something he's very concerned about. the sheriff's office. the jail. you know, everybody's very concerned about this. there's only so much that everyone can do, if it's -- it's a free country. you can't lock down the entire country. a lot of it will be up to her. where's she goes and what she does. the more she's out in public, the more there would be an opportunity for somebody to act out like this. i think, you know, the majority of people that are, even the people that are extremely upset about this, the farthest they're willing to go is to the streets. hold up signs. chants at the free speech zones. you never know. it only takes one person. so there's only so much can you do and i think a lot of it will depend wloon she does and where she goes. i know the sheriff's office, of course, extremely ironic, because the same sheriff's office her lawyer is accused of botching this investigation, is going to be the same sheriff's office charged withke